# 一些群众组织能否专注于群众的思想政治教育？还是这是一种偏差

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**Created:** [2026 年6 月 26 日 09:42 UTC](https://www.mlzyws.com/t/topic/2957 "2026-06-26T09:42:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![luanma](https://www.mlzyws.com/user_avatar/www.mlzyws.com/luanma/32/332_2.png) [@luanma](https://www.mlzyws.com/u/luanma)\
**Post date:** [2026 年6 月 27 日 17:42 UTC](https://www.mlzyws.com/t/topic/2957/35 "2026-06-27T17:42:33Z")

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> [@CharlesDirba](#):
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> 达尔顿派

指正一下，这里按通行译法应该是“道尔顿”，同姓的还有那位名叫约翰·道尔顿的物理学家

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**Author:** ![沼泽士兵](https://www.mlzyws.com/user_avatar/www.mlzyws.com/%E6%B2%BC%E6%B3%BD%E5%A3%AB%E5%85%B5/32/648_2.png) [@沼泽士兵](https://www.mlzyws.com/u/%E6%B2%BC%E6%B3%BD%E5%A3%AB%E5%85%B5)\
**Post date:** [2026 年6 月 29 日 10:38 UTC](https://www.mlzyws.com/t/topic/2957/37 "2026-06-29T10:38:53Z")

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楼主怎么没出来了

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**Author:** ![钱仁零](https://www.mlzyws.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/%E9%92%B1/58f4c7/32.png) [@钱仁零](https://www.mlzyws.com/u/%E9%92%B1%E4%BB%81%E9%9B%B6)\
**Post date:** [2026 年6 月 29 日 10:42 UTC](https://www.mlzyws.com/t/topic/2957/38 "2026-06-29T10:42:45Z")

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查尔斯好像有一个习惯，就是两天不睡觉精神很好，然后第三天就整天睡觉。可能是这个原因。

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**Author:** ![CharlesDirba](https://www.mlzyws.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@CharlesDirba](https://www.mlzyws.com/u/CharlesDirba)\
**Post date:** [2026 年7 月 3 日 03:24 UTC](https://www.mlzyws.com/t/topic/2957/39 "2026-07-03T03:24:35Z")

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嘿，我还在呢！抱歉一直没发帖。我还在。让我看看网上最近的帖子。

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**Author:** ![19586](https://www.mlzyws.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/1/c0e974/32.png) [@19586](https://www.mlzyws.com/u/19586)\
**Post date:** [2026 年7 月 13 日 06:53 UTC](https://www.mlzyws.com/t/topic/2957/45 "2026-07-13T06:53:52Z")

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> [@CharlesDirba](#):
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> Basically the issue with the intermediate organizations is that they take up the tasks of the Party and claim they are Communists and want to unite the mass organizations under a basis of unity which is principally ideological and only fit for the Party. Sometimes they justify this by considering their organization as a part of the United Front, but they also act as if it’s an organization which will eventually form a nucleus of the Party. So in this way they mix up two instruments of revolution and also blend between Communists and masses in a way that’s inappropriate.

另外，这是一个没有被转发的概括，翻译成中文大致是：

> [@CharlesDirba](#):
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> 基本上，中间组织的问题在于，它们承担了党的任务，自称是共产主义者，并试图以一种主要基于意识形态、而实际上只适合党的团结原则为基础，将群众组织团结起来。有时，他们以将自己的组织视为统一战线的一部分为由为这种做法辩解，但同时又表现得仿佛该组织最终将成为党的核心。因此，他们既混淆了革命的两种工具，又以一种不恰当的方式将共产党员与群众混为一谈。

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